Thursday, May 30, 2019
Fifteenth Ward Chapel
Monday, May 27, 2019
Suddenly these stories are in living color!
It seems strange; none of us are Pollards, who have Joseph and Mary Ann as our progenitors. Their sons did not survive to found families while their seven daughters did. And those families have moved about. But when a few of us got together today in Salt Lake City we met a likable group.
Thank you James Backman for your forethought. Often such an event as a bi-centennial slips right past, as if it hasn't taken 200 years to come around. This or that item has catches our attention this week or month and we think it must get done, looking away just as a "big" event comes up!
Jim was generous with his comments about my family history work, which I sometimes cannot help thinking where to just put it down and back away. After today though, I wonder how to put it into others' hands, how to make it available to those we haven't gotten together with. Yet.
I am not LDS. I do know however, that in that faith there is a powerful desire to gather. In 1855 it may have been to gather in a desert Zion as much as to gather as eternal families. Family lineage, then, is one means toward that accomplishment.
Famous for my eye-roll, I have had to accept that rash statement: "Oh, I have all that done!" or more frequently, "that's all been done". I beg to differ, I think.
About the going forward. My vision is that through family history I will develop a sense of belonging, and that others will also; a sense of being part of something important. My goal is to show where and how I belong, and with whom. I am in generation five in Joseph Pollard's family, but I want my nephews and nieces to know whence they come, and their children - perhaps especially.
I am nine generations away from the American Revolution. 9? I have nieces whose mother comes from families that were well established in New Spain (now New Mexico) earlier. 10?
I will show as many descendants in the seventh generation as I can, how they trace back to this pioneering family. I will learn all the names of those having the Bishop's Daughters as a 4th Great Grandmother. Seven generations.
Well, back to work then!
Thank you James Backman for your forethought. Often such an event as a bi-centennial slips right past, as if it hasn't taken 200 years to come around. This or that item has catches our attention this week or month and we think it must get done, looking away just as a "big" event comes up!
Jim was generous with his comments about my family history work, which I sometimes cannot help thinking where to just put it down and back away. After today though, I wonder how to put it into others' hands, how to make it available to those we haven't gotten together with. Yet.
I am not LDS. I do know however, that in that faith there is a powerful desire to gather. In 1855 it may have been to gather in a desert Zion as much as to gather as eternal families. Family lineage, then, is one means toward that accomplishment.
Famous for my eye-roll, I have had to accept that rash statement: "Oh, I have all that done!" or more frequently, "that's all been done". I beg to differ, I think.
About the going forward. My vision is that through family history I will develop a sense of belonging, and that others will also; a sense of being part of something important. My goal is to show where and how I belong, and with whom. I am in generation five in Joseph Pollard's family, but I want my nephews and nieces to know whence they come, and their children - perhaps especially.
I am nine generations away from the American Revolution. 9? I have nieces whose mother comes from families that were well established in New Spain (now New Mexico) earlier. 10?
I will show as many descendants in the seventh generation as I can, how they trace back to this pioneering family. I will learn all the names of those having the Bishop's Daughters as a 4th Great Grandmother. Seven generations.
Well, back to work then!
Thursday, February 28, 2019
In the Flurry of Activity, I learn
Please check notes attached to the posts related to your family lines, I believe I will place updates as I learn of them there.
As I am researching contacts for the upcoming bicentennial of Joseph Pollard I have learned of changes in the various lines that occur over time: birth, marriage, death. Fortunate I am to learn our history though through these events.
Over a year ago I visited Mitzi Vinson in the assisted living center in Ogden. Frail, she was having increasing difficulty in accomplishing daily tasks. from my professional experience I realized that a change was likely to happen wherein she would need to have skilled nursing care and that place would not have her stay where she was. I do not know when the change did happen; after calling and getting the "this number is no longer in service" I stopped by and was informed she was no longer a resident, but they were unable to tell me where she had been placed, as this was now the reality: it would be a placement rather than a move. During this renewed research I see that a death date is listed as having come in January of 2018.
I know that Mitzi, daughter of Grace Lucile Backman Glade, and granddaughter of Grace Bailey Pollard Backman, had two daughters and four grand children, none of them in Utah. So I face east and wish them well and remember Mitzi fondly.
Joseph Pollard 1819 - 2019
Memorial Day, May 27, 2019 has been selected for the program. James H. Backman has begun reaching out to the Daughters' lines in hope of having each represented. Watch for communication from him or from myself. When it is available I will post the print program.
I am delighted with the responses so far. My initial effort was to contact those who have submitted sources, changes, information and documentation to the www.FamilySearch.org profiles. I have re-learned that sometimes this is done by strangers doing a good turn, so there have been polite refusals as well as enthusiastic acceptances.
As I am researching contacts for the upcoming bicentennial of Joseph Pollard I have learned of changes in the various lines that occur over time: birth, marriage, death. Fortunate I am to learn our history though through these events.
Over a year ago I visited Mitzi Vinson in the assisted living center in Ogden. Frail, she was having increasing difficulty in accomplishing daily tasks. from my professional experience I realized that a change was likely to happen wherein she would need to have skilled nursing care and that place would not have her stay where she was. I do not know when the change did happen; after calling and getting the "this number is no longer in service" I stopped by and was informed she was no longer a resident, but they were unable to tell me where she had been placed, as this was now the reality: it would be a placement rather than a move. During this renewed research I see that a death date is listed as having come in January of 2018.
I know that Mitzi, daughter of Grace Lucile Backman Glade, and granddaughter of Grace Bailey Pollard Backman, had two daughters and four grand children, none of them in Utah. So I face east and wish them well and remember Mitzi fondly.
Joseph Pollard 1819 - 2019
Memorial Day, May 27, 2019 has been selected for the program. James H. Backman has begun reaching out to the Daughters' lines in hope of having each represented. Watch for communication from him or from myself. When it is available I will post the print program.
I am delighted with the responses so far. My initial effort was to contact those who have submitted sources, changes, information and documentation to the www.FamilySearch.org profiles. I have re-learned that sometimes this is done by strangers doing a good turn, so there have been polite refusals as well as enthusiastic acceptances.
Thursday, February 14, 2019
Joseph Pollard Bicentennial
This from James:
We have Joseph Pollard as a common ancestor. His 200th birthday is in 2019. We suggest a gathering at his grave site on Memorial Day, May 27, 2019 at noon. His grave is on the South end of the Salt Lake cemetery, close (Northeast) to the Church located on 4th Avenue and P Street. You will see our group there.We are contacting descendants we can locate from Joseph's seven daughters. Please spread the word with other descendants stemming from your particular Daughter.
We have begun making contacts, watch for either my or James H Backman's name in messages. We are excited to get to know you.
We have Joseph Pollard as a common ancestor. His 200th birthday is in 2019. We suggest a gathering at his grave site on Memorial Day, May 27, 2019 at noon. His grave is on the South end of the Salt Lake cemetery, close (Northeast) to the Church located on 4th Avenue and P Street. You will see our group there.We are contacting descendants we can locate from Joseph's seven daughters. Please spread the word with other descendants stemming from your particular Daughter.
We have begun making contacts, watch for either my or James H Backman's name in messages. We are excited to get to know you.
Thursday, August 30, 2018
Milestones
I was reminded that Joseph Pollard's bi-centennial is in 2019. James H. Backman has posed the idea of doing "something". Jim is a big thinker, but also a big share-er: he wants YOU to take part in remembering our common ancestor. He approached me because I have your names. Well, some of you. Watch for more.
Tuesday, March 27, 2018
Serendipitous Finds
In recent searches for Mary Ann Bailey Pollard and her parents I have found several confusing or conflicting sources. Both www.familysearch.org and www.ancestry.com have had them. Partly, it is the number of family members interested in learning more about our family; partly - sadly - it is persons unconnected to our history attaching records that may on the surface match, but do not stand up to scrutiny.
I must keep on the lookout to keep from being in the second group. Attention, commitment and patience are required. I can make a slip in any or all three.
Today I tried to verify some entries that I felt were mistaken. This is actually a fun sojourn in family history and I encourage it: if it doesn't seem right to you dig in!
I had help, and that help was greater than I could have imagined. I was at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City on level B-2. I presented the pedigree sheet I had printed up that caused my questions.
I had found that Mary Ann Bailey (Pollard) was born in 1821, her parents James Bailey and Mary Brook were married about 1820 and James Bailey had died about 1818. I needed to find the exact dates to clarify this jumbled family record! Without judgement it is possible that Mary Ann was born up to a year prior to her parents settling the issue with a priest. Life and times have had more than one shift in the last 200 years.
To be born three years after a parent passes away is slightly different. It might be the wrong dates, dates might be "guesstimated", or many other things, including the human relationship factors that we have experienced since time began.
I started with "what I know". Mary Ann provided her family history as needed for LDS ordinance work in Salt Lake City. Her birth date, place of birth, parentage. They could be off but they were given in the first person, so I felt I should trust that.
But I found no corroboration. After a few hours (about three, but less) I did find a marriage record in Lifton, Devonshire, England at the parish church, on the 27 of May 1822 between James Bayly and Mary Williams, a widow. She was of that parish. He was not, but "of Stowford". The marriage was in the presence of William Brok [Brook] and Robert _____. It was performed by the Curate of the parish.
This was in Find My Past, available in the Library or by subscription. Using www.maps.familysearch.org I was able to find the places and potential for movement of several places in various records. I have - for the moment - surmised that Mary Ann Bailey was born after the marriage of her parents of record, James and Mary, but that Mary had married a Mr. Williams prior so that Mary Ann would have been christened Williams, though later accepted by Mr. Bailey. The witness William Brok can be Mary's father. A widowed single mother might have moved home of necessity. James and Mary had four children of their marriage christened in Cornwall, near to Lifton, through to 1828. So I know our James Bailey did not pass away in 1818, but his death date still eludes me.
Research in family history is not a one page endeavor. I have had to "just accept" some things sometimes "for now". But I am interested in knowing my history, and while there is time and I am able, I will open that book again and again.
Join me! Open YOUR book! Dive in!
I must keep on the lookout to keep from being in the second group. Attention, commitment and patience are required. I can make a slip in any or all three.
Today I tried to verify some entries that I felt were mistaken. This is actually a fun sojourn in family history and I encourage it: if it doesn't seem right to you dig in!
I had help, and that help was greater than I could have imagined. I was at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City on level B-2. I presented the pedigree sheet I had printed up that caused my questions.
I had found that Mary Ann Bailey (Pollard) was born in 1821, her parents James Bailey and Mary Brook were married about 1820 and James Bailey had died about 1818. I needed to find the exact dates to clarify this jumbled family record! Without judgement it is possible that Mary Ann was born up to a year prior to her parents settling the issue with a priest. Life and times have had more than one shift in the last 200 years.
To be born three years after a parent passes away is slightly different. It might be the wrong dates, dates might be "guesstimated", or many other things, including the human relationship factors that we have experienced since time began.
I started with "what I know". Mary Ann provided her family history as needed for LDS ordinance work in Salt Lake City. Her birth date, place of birth, parentage. They could be off but they were given in the first person, so I felt I should trust that.
But I found no corroboration. After a few hours (about three, but less) I did find a marriage record in Lifton, Devonshire, England at the parish church, on the 27 of May 1822 between James Bayly and Mary Williams, a widow. She was of that parish. He was not, but "of Stowford". The marriage was in the presence of William Brok [Brook] and Robert _____. It was performed by the Curate of the parish.
This was in Find My Past, available in the Library or by subscription. Using www.maps.familysearch.org I was able to find the places and potential for movement of several places in various records. I have - for the moment - surmised that Mary Ann Bailey was born after the marriage of her parents of record, James and Mary, but that Mary had married a Mr. Williams prior so that Mary Ann would have been christened Williams, though later accepted by Mr. Bailey. The witness William Brok can be Mary's father. A widowed single mother might have moved home of necessity. James and Mary had four children of their marriage christened in Cornwall, near to Lifton, through to 1828. So I know our James Bailey did not pass away in 1818, but his death date still eludes me.
Research in family history is not a one page endeavor. I have had to "just accept" some things sometimes "for now". But I am interested in knowing my history, and while there is time and I am able, I will open that book again and again.
Join me! Open YOUR book! Dive in!
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